Curse

*lemming* · Sep 09, 2009, 04:59 AM // 04:59

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

SD will make people actually build bars again, should be fun.

You're never going to get to make a real sin bar in Sealed.

Ghost Dog · Sep 09, 2009, 05:31 AM // 05:31

No doubt, that's what happens when a class uses easy mode chain builds.

Regulus X · Sep 09, 2009, 06:30 AM // 06:30

Is it just me? Or do I detect that Anet's inducing GW1 /ragequitting via terrible updates/changes for the sake of forcing player's attention to other games (i.e.: Aion, GW2, etc.)?

If not, then who the hell are they [Anet/LiveTeam] listening to in regards to these decisions they're making? Sealed Deck seems to be just some "fixed" cop-out arena to avoid future work on 4v4 balancing issues, tbh.. -.-

Morgoth the dark · Sep 09, 2009, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by urania

they have absolutely NO LEGITIMATE REASON for removing TA.
so...go die anet.

lulz, TA
Wiki builds are bad mkay? And in TA, 6/7 of builds are from wiki, and fighting all the same builds allover again isnt something that could be called fun.

Welcome Sealed.

*lemming* · Sep 09, 2009, 08:40 AM // 08:40

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Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

lulz, TA
Wiki builds are bad mkay? And in TA, 6/7 of builds are from wiki, and fighting all the same builds allover again isnt something that could be called fun.

Welcome Sealed.

TA merits removing because optimal builds exist?

Wild Rituals · Sep 09, 2009, 09:17 AM // 09:17

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Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

lulz, TA
Wiki builds are bad mkay? And in TA, 6/7 of builds are from wiki, and fighting all the same builds allover again isnt something that could be called fun.

Welcome Sealed.

Any build that is good gets put up on wiki eventually after it rolls bad teams when run by good players.

Thats where most "Wiki Builds" Come from

urania · Sep 09, 2009, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

lulz, TA
Wiki builds are bad mkay? And in TA, 6/7 of builds are from wiki, and fighting all the same builds allover again isnt something that could be called fun.

Welcome Sealed.

lolz BoS lolz.

oh noes, its a wiki troll!

stop making fun of yourself and come up with a better excuse, ty.

Morgoth the dark · Sep 09, 2009, 11:06 AM // 11:06

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Originally Posted by tehlemming

TA merits removing because optimal builds exist?

Nope, but becuase there are only optimal builds in play. U get it? If you try to bring something else, your build or try to test something, you get kicked or flamed or something...

@ Urania, i've never done gvg and never will, so... you fail. Better excuse? TA meta sucks hard, it hasnt even changed for a quite a long time now, now get over it, finally is gonna get erased 4 good. And i'm glad it will, it gets boring playing vs all the same builds all the time. And what are your pros for keeping it? None i guess...
also, lulz, karla gray

@Wild rituals : Oh really? So some newfags come to the TA, where do they get a build? They make one by themselves? Yea, right, wiki saves a day. And if you try to bring something else, you get kicked or called a n00b or even worse. Nice.

the_deSKtructor · Sep 09, 2009, 12:59 PM // 12:59

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Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

TA meta sucks hard, it hasnt even changed for a quite a long time now, now get over it, finally is gonna get erased 4 good.

It surely isn't any worse than the other formats meta, from a good player perspective. But BoS is well known for laming, so yeah...

Windf0rce · Sep 09, 2009, 01:31 PM // 13:31

When will people stop the ridiculous 'omg wiki build' troll/comments?

Isn't it obvious already that every optimal build will be made public in the pvxwiki site or somewhere else?

It's not like some good secret builds exist. Everything has been tried and tested to exhaustion, whatever works really well is on the wiki and no one can be blamed for using it - having invented it or not. Who really cares about builds being lame or honorable? What matters is that you win or lose, no one will run bad builds to cripple themselves, everyone will try to run the best/most optimal. Some lame builds make up for player's lack of skill. Lame builds on top of a skilled team are hard to beat.

It's like being flamed other day in RA for running a WoH/Patient/stances Monk. Seriously what the hell people want me to run on a Monk and yet have a slight chance of not being ganked and demolished in a 4v4? Play a smiter for fun and prepare to be flamed too, because 'it sucks'. So in the end it doesn't really matter, you get crap comments for being optimal and for being original/sub-optimal. Simply run whatever wins, then. Better be called bad/wikier and win than be flamed/called bad and lose.

Morgoth the dark · Sep 09, 2009, 02:18 PM // 14:18

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Originally Posted by the_deSKtructor

It surely isn't any worse than the other formats meta, from a good player perspective. But BoS is well known for laming, so yeah...

Blame/flame them who was lame, i wasnt

I agree with the first part, but hey, with format could they merge? HA? GvG?
not really, so TA, bye bye

Windforce, it's not about calling or something, it's about playing vs the same builds all the freaking time.
It gets REALLY boring, and anyways... TA was dead.

wuzzman · Sep 09, 2009, 04:28 PM // 16:28

You guys refuse to make pvp more accessible and yet complain to high heaven when your ghost town that YOU made is getting removed. Oh the sweet, sweet, sweet tears that I drink from the cup of win and justice. HAHA nobs, HAHA. Now just waiting for HA to be removed.

Still Number One · Sep 09, 2009, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by wuzzman

You guys refuse to make pvp more accessible and yet complain to high heaven when your ghost town that YOU made is getting removed. Oh the sweet, sweet, sweet tears that I drink from the cup of win and justice. HAHA nobs, HAHA. Now just waiting for HA to be removed.

Just because you suck at the game doesn't mean it isn't accessible. It just simply means that you suck at the game.

Osiris_sam · Sep 09, 2009, 05:20 PM // 17:20

who is not making pvp more accessible... how can the playerbase be blamed for that??? if people cant/dont want to play TA... big shock, they wont. also. does it really look like a ghost town??? can you count?

@people complaining about wiki bars: i think you would be hard up to find a good, solid build that hasnt found its way to wiki. that being said, no set bar is ever effective, the ability to adapt and change your skills/tactics for a given situation is what makes builds good e.g. putting wild throw on the devham bar.

@windf0rce, people in RA seem to have a totally wrong idea of a team setup... although, im usually very unhappy when i get a monk who turns out to be running some random smite bar, usually because they dont know what synergies exist and just thought 'i do damage, i must rockzors', like all the other nabs who play midline with no utilities. A well constructed smiter bar is fantastic in terms of team support, a badly constructed one, (roj, smite, banesig, castisig, spear of light, blah blah, ressig/rebirth is a great example of a bad smiter bar). but that is RA...

i dont like to play gimmick bars myself, because i believe that lowers my overall skill level, and i prefer technical bars. also, i believe its a common misconception that creative bars should be given more merit than so called cookie cutter bars. everyone is (ab)using overpowered skills in every game, where is this imaginary line which makes it ok for you to do, but not them. (granted some skills are much more broken than others, but since thats totally out of your control, i feel its not worth mentioning... gganet)

granted there are a lot of broken skills in the format... but could anyone please tell me how this is different to the rest of the game atm??? cos im pretty sure the same *insert bad words* is everywhere else.

/endrant
sam

Catchphrase · Sep 09, 2009, 05:38 PM // 17:38

For me TA is boring not because of facing the same builds but having to conform to the total annihilation objective to win. There's no NPCs or anything else to add some depth to the play.
@Regulus X
I think SD is going to focus on the technicality of skills and the player; bringing in certain fads or themes with the weekly generated pre-selected skills. This could hardly be bad for anybody especially those fond of going competitive with past favorite builds that had gone out of favor due to meta.

wuzzman · Sep 09, 2009, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by Still Number One

Just because you suck at the game doesn't mean it isn't accessible. It just simply means that you suck at the game.

for the lol. kids and their entitlement issues. ta deserved to be closed, just waiting for HA now which is the mother of inaccessible crap arenas.

the_deSKtructor · Sep 09, 2009, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

Blame/flame them who was lame, i wasnt

Fair enough.

Vazze · Sep 09, 2009, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Ok, now WTF is this thread about? First, HB is not 4v4, it's 1v1 (sorry, retarded heroes don't count). Second, TA is gonna get removed but sealed deck is gonna be 4vs4 and it is going to be organized! Finally, why on earth are you complaining about removing an organized arena when you have gvg, ha and gonna get sd....all decent formats, and for random formats you have AB and RA trash?

Revelations · Sep 09, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38

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Originally Posted by wuzzman

just waiting for HA now which is the mother of inaccessible crap arenas.

HA is only inaccessible to bad and/or lazy players. TA is perfectly accessible to basically anyone. Even terrible players should be able to farm the RA spillovers.

wuzzman · Sep 09, 2009, 09:52 PM // 21:52

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Originally Posted by Revelations

HA is only inaccessible to bad and/or lazy players. TA is perfectly accessible to basically anyone. Even terrible players should be able to farm the RA spillovers.

I will have a cup ready to accept your tears once HA closes.